Year 9 Anniversary - Necrovion Rulership Discussion

This topic is about a discussion that took place during the Trivia contest on the first day of MD's ninth Anniversary. It contains a log of MD's players discussing the history of Necrovion's leadership to that day, and how the Shade Sentinel fits into that leadership.

The next page contains a summary of the information, the pages thereafter contain the log from the actual event for historical purposes and further research.

When Curiose asked a trivia question about who the original leader of the Necrovion Land was, it started a discussion about the entire span of leaders for that land.

Everyone was able to agree that the first player considered to be the King was Khalazdad, who was given the position of Rajj. However, the role of the Shade Sentinel, who is the autonomous part of the land which actually granted Khalazdad the position, was not so readily agreed upon.

After much discussion a timeline of Necrovion leadership was established. Shade Sentinel was in charge of the land before any players where given the leadership position, even though as he was essentially part of the land he was not considered to be its ruler. Khalazdad was given the position of Rajj, and founded a dynasty from his lineage. His daughter Peace was the next to take the throne, however the position of King was eventually given to Jester. After the Necrovion Rebellion which was lead by Pamplemousse, who had been given some of the kingship tools by Jester, the land was left with no leader once more. The Shade Sentinel would have been in charge of the land, however as he was currently trapped in an unknown phenomena he was not able to participate in this role, and the land had no real guidance. Eventually, Azull gained the title of King, and Peace joined him in leadership.

This brought us upto events as they stood at the time of the 9th Anniversary, so the discussion returned to further Trivia questions.

Curiose:The original "king" of Necrovion?
Shadowseeker:Khalazdad
Curiose:Correct.
Assira the Black:Khalazdad
*Sunfire*:khalazdad
Kyphis:Shade Sentinel
*Mya Celestia*:There was no original king. It's all about the shades *smirks*
Kyphis:Exactly! Shade Sentinel
*Sunfire*:true, kyph
Curiose:The sentinel is kind of tricky.
Curiose:Going over back on the forum, I came across this:
Curiose:Shade Sentinel does not belong to its people but the people belong to it. However, the Sentinel does not have direct decision power over the people and Necrovians have their free will.
Curiose:And then Mur goes on to say a human will be elected, etc.
Curiose:And originally, Khalazdad had a "dynasty." Then I think Peace followed and Marvolo is in that lineage somewhere then Jester somewhere and... it's all a mess.
Kyphis:Khalazdad was the first actual ruler of NC, Shade sentinel is more a force of the land
Curiose:Yeah. I knew Khal was the original ruler, but this was before Kings came into play, as in the mechanics.
Curiose:I think Jester tricked Peace from the crown? I could be wrong...
Kyphis:Peace would be the first one with that title, I belive. That or her brother.
Curiose:Peace supposedly is the "faughter' of Khal.
Curiose:Because Khal had a dynasty. and..
Kyphis:Yes. Faughter
*Chewett*:Is this a quiz? : P
Shadowseeker:right now it's more a history lesson
Curiose:It was a quiz, but now it's a discussion.
lashtal:Wait.. Wasn't Khal actually crowned by the Shade Sentinel?
*Chewett*:Exciting
Shadowseeker:he was
Shadowseeker:which is why he's the "king"
*Sunfire*:he was rajj
Curiose:But the Sentinel is just a force of the land... I think back during the Necro rebellion a bunch of folk tried to provoke the sentinel.
Curiose:I wish someone from way back when was around. It'd be cool to listen.
Curiose:Ah, lessons from Pample....
Kyphis:Chewett, Shadowseeker, and I believe dst all fill that role
Curiose:So, the sentinel originally gave someone "power" so to speak, but it was Khal who made something of the Necrovion land, no?
*Sunfire*:they allowed him to be the ruler of the human part of necrovion
*Sunfire*:they were still his master imho
Kyphis:Yup

Curiose:You mean, the sentinel was still the master, yes?
lashtal:I'd agree with Sunfire
Kyphis:Shade Sentinel was also in charge of the Shades (well, he IS all the shades, from memory, so...)
Curiose:Alright, that is fair.
Curiose:So the order of Necrovion rulers, would be the following? SS, Khal, Peace, (did Marvolo rule at one time?)
Kyphis: (I dont recall)
*Sunfire*: (i believe he didnt)
Curiose: (I know he had "heritage" to it, but his ties were mostly in LR, correct?)
Kyphis: (yeah, my memory says he ran, but was beaten by Peace, and then JEster got the throne)
*Sunfire*:ss, khal, peace, jester, peace, peace and azull
Curiose:That sounds like a proper timeline.
*Sunfire*:if memory serves well
Kyphis:Sounds right. Also sounds really weird when you say it out loud (seriously, do it)
*Mya Celestia*:Pamplemousse was in there with Jester
Curiose:Well, technically if we want to get technical, SS after the dethroning of Jester before Peace took over.
Curiose:Oh that is right. Peace did have some ruling power. She had some king items.
Curiose:*Pample.
Kyphis:Peace is also currently in a leader position in NC
Curiose:And then, Jester took the items away from Pamps during the rebelion.
Shadowseeker:You need to exclude Sentinel and pample.
Azull:ss, khal, peace, jester, jester and pample, peace and azull.
Kyphis: (oh, peace AND azull, not peace AND THEN azull. silly me)
Shadowseeker:Sentinel doesn't count as a "ruler" by the definition, they were never interested in the humans
Shadowseeker:and wasn't pample just deputy based off jester?
Azull:then why did it form
Curiose:I don't recall. I know she had some items that retained game mechanics.
Shadowseeker:even if she had kingship items at one point, that's due to jester, not due to her position
Azull:meh, different discussion
Curiose:Jester stripped them when she got demoted.
Shadowseeker:yeah but that's a subordinate relationship, not a ruler's position
*Mya Celestia*:Is the quiz still happening?
Curiose:Didn't she make some of the decisions, though?
Shadowseeker:...and really, you don't know that the whole Sentinel/Wodin war was what lead to the formation of the current structure?
Kyphis:We switched to a discussion of NC politics
Curiose:The quest stopped at 10 questions to change to a new quiz questioner, but then we desolved into discussion. :p
*Sunfire*:just like azull being jesters hand
AmberRune:Now that there's a timeline and whoever originally said who in what order has been forgotten, can we have another question?